Who would benefit from the Russia-Ukraine war? America,Europe or Africa?


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    I’ll do you one better - I’ll tell you who are going to be both the biggest winners and the biggest losers in my estimation.

    The biggest winners - China, America, France.

    The biggest losers - Russia, Germany, India.

    The is because I want you to understand how the increase in stock for the winners directly corresponds to a decrease in stock for the losers. Unlike global trade, geopolitics is by definition always a zero-sum game since power in any system is a fixed quantity and always in relation to that possessed by other players. What you can do to others (your power), is inextricably linked to what they in turn can do to you (their power).

    A couple of caveats, as with any comprehensive analysis. Firstly, I’m not going to mention Ukraine, because it should be obvious that calling a nation a loser when it simply ceases to exist as a sovereign entity is a gross understatement.

    Secondly, I am talking here of the medium to the long term (5–20 years from now). As counterintuitive as it may seem, much like in meteorology, it is the immediate future which is harder to predict in geopolitics. Because the longer trajectory is determined by much bigger, structural and hard-to-change factors like population, resources, location, terrain, and political culture. I cannot predict what Sri Lanka or Argentina might do next week, next month or next year, but I can more accurately predict whether they will be a minor, major or global player in 10, 20 or 50 years from now.

    Now that that’s out of the way let’s begin with the three winners.


    W1. CHINA

    China now has the chokehold over Russia’s economy and by extension, her geopolitical decisions.

    Thanks to her wanton and unprovoked aggression, Russia will be cut off ruthlessly and systematically from the global financial system, and in a double whammy, the EU over the next decade is going to move as fast as they can away from dependence on Russian oil and gas.

    That means that for Russia their biggest customer in terms of exports - of energy, of food, of weapons - is going to be China. They will also be heavily in the hock to China for domestic investment because the EU is systematically shutting up shop in Russia (the Americans never set up shop to begin with).

    For any nation, it is never a good thing to have your fate be largely at the pleasure of just one other nation.

    No, not even if that nation is your best friend (just ask the U.K. about the price extracted of their imperial ambitions by the Americans, during and after The Second World War), let alone when that nation is someone you never have traditionally liked even when you two were the biggest communist powers during The First Cold War.

    The Kremlin least of all places cannot be under any illusion that China will not systematically and without pretense, squeeze every drop of that imbalance in power between Moscow and Beijing. How this is not going to be a relationship of equals. and that if the Chinese at any point threaten to cut off Russian exports, Russia is completely finished and will become a giant version of North Korea.

    China is also a big winner since with the sudden and almost cataclysmic overthrow of the geopolitical equation in Europe, a material amount of American military heat and muscle is going to be drawn to that theater. Though not quite as much as the Chinese might have hoped for but I’ll get to that shortly.

    In other words, China now has a powerful sidekick (Russia), and their biggest adversary (America) is forced to hold the line in leading fashion in not just one but two large geopolitical theaters.


    W2. AMERICA

    The biggest benefit to America has been the galvanization of NATO.

    It is hard to imagine that it was just three years ago when Emmanuel Macron had called NATO “brain dead”, and with good reason. Because it wasn’t clear whether or even IF the Trans-Atlantic alliance had much reason to exist. That has taken an about turn with astonishing speed in a matter of weeks now, and it’s as if we were back to a situation like in 1949 when the alliance was birthed. That’s because we are.

    The Europeans - and Germany in particular - will have to put more into the pot in terms of defense, their honeymoon of living off the “American security + Russian energy + Chinese market” model is officially over. There was never the need to urge the likes of Poland to up their defense spending, but now the possibility is that even Sweden and Finland might join NATO - Russia just threatened both of them with dire military consequences. And at any rate, those two hitherto neutral Scandinavian states will shore up their military capacity rapidly (which they had never let up anyway, much to their credit). France as THE pre-eminent European military power will do likewise. And if German spending on defense stays at below 2%, then she will watch her leadership and prestige in the EU systematically erode away. Because it’s not merely a matter of euros and cents anymore, geopolitics has gatecrashed into the equation and done so with a vengeance.

    The credibility of American military intelligence and her geopolitical outlook has also been entirely vindicated since they were the one Western power who was warning repeatedly that Russia was not just able to but was going to invade Ukraine - even as so many others accused them of scaremongering, and of how diplomacy could yet save the day.

    If it still isn’t clear by now even as Russian tanks roll into Kiev, that Putin had already carefully planned this invasion months in advance, that all of the trips to Moscow were but a charade to assuage his ego, that how shamelessly Putin and Lavrov were lying through their teeth repeatedly about not wanting to invade? Then such fools are beyond any rescue, as the late Christopher Hitchens once said -

    ”They should be standing on the street corner. Selling pencils. From a cup.”

    But the biggest win for America, which many people haven’t yet realized, is that she won’t have to strain her back trying to corral the EU states together in the conflict against China. For the past few years, the EU attitude with regards to American-Chinese geopolitical competition was very understandably and even very justifiably this -

    “We’d rather not get into this. We can just continue to increase our trade with China, we don’t need to pick a side since we’re not anywhere near the region of conflict.”

    All of that goes straight out of the window now. How?

    With Russia becoming a client state at the mercy of China’s patronage, the equation for the Europeans is grasping this -

    “The more money you put into Chinese pockets, the more missiles get loaded into Russian guns.”

    This does not mean that the EU will just cut Chinese trade off, no that would be crazy, it merely means that from now on they are forced into the painful recognition and consciousness that the economy of the greatest enemy in their corner of the woods, will be fed and by extension be armed, by China.

    So fuel and strengthen Chinese economic growth at your own peril.

    No matter how much mercantile interests or energy needs may protest, as the events of recent days have demonstrated so clearly, you CANNOT just seal these domains - trade, energy and defense - into separate boxes and pretend as if they have no connections or significant influence on each other.


    W3. FRANCE

    Let me count the ways in how this is an unmixed blessing for Paris.

    It is hard to exaggerate just how splendidly well-positioned the French are of all of the EU nations today, partly by blind luck, but mostly through prudence and the French way of doing things.

    The EU ever since the end of The First Cold War, has been dominated mainly by issues of peace time. With good reason. There was a complacency that Russia was done and dusted with, the main focus was on such matters as trade balances, climate change, immigration, regulations and so on.

    As always there are two major powers on the continent - France and Germany. France was the dominant power in combined hard terms (military + economic). But because geopolitics was hardly in the equation at all, economic size was everything and hence Germany was the boss.

    All of that has changed so quickly now.

    The military factor has come right to the fore and for the EU, security considerations will rightfully trump economic ones. With good reason, because there is no question about prospering when you don’t even survive in the first place! And only a complete fool would trust a security guarantee by Germany, which is not the case with France.

    France is also blessed with a fantastic geographical position being at other end of the continent from Russia. So she can afford to leverage her power with less fear of invasion. This can be both good and bad in terms of her motivation, but the good thing is that for all of France’s insecurity and ability to take offence, she is the one powerful nation in Europe who has fierce pride, who is not burdened with historical guilt, and who is not timid about deploying hard power. She is very much like America in those dimensions.

    All of those will now be needed and France will take the leading position in Europe with relish. Remember how she was quite understandably very angry at being treated with less respect than she deserved by her allies in the AUKUS alliance - there is no way on God’s green earth that she won’t now grab this opportunity with both hands to take the initiative in Europe. And good for her, the West will be all the better for France deploying her significant muscle locally to defend her continental partners.

    The French for all of their sclerotic attitude with respect to regulations, were pragmatic and prudent enough to not set themselves up at the mercy of Moscow with respect to energy needs. France has always been the most reliant on nuclear energy of all of the big nations and boy can they be thankful for it now!

    France also does not depend very much for trade on China (not even 5% of their exports are to China). Not being overtly dependent on global trade is a major strength in times of conflict.

    It means that the two primary opponents of the Western Alliance - Russia and China - have little to zero leverage over France.

    France also has the most well-developed armament industry by far in Western Europe. And it will considerably benefit the her industry as her NATO partners on the continent beef up their forces.

    It is important to understand that the French model is autarkic. Autarky means that business and geopolitical considerations are tightly knit together and it is national security considerations which then drive business decisions, not the other way around as it is the model in Germany. The autarkic model for strategic resources that are indispensable for national security and self-reliance, is the model which I have always stridently advocated as a security hawk and hard-nosed realist. And like any trade-off, it is not one without serious downsides. It is unarguably at a disadvantage in times of peace because its insistence on national self-reliance, can be a hurdle to no-holds barred globalization in the interests of mercantile growth. But it is at a decisive advantage in times of threat or war.

    France much like America is largely self-sufficient in all of the key strategic aspects - food, energy, armaments and technology. NOT by chance, but as I hope I have demonstrated point by point above, through deliberate design. A geopolitical model which first factors in the resources and needs of your nation, both natural and human capital, and then cohesively and comprehensively drives policies - financial, military, economic, energy - which systematically both fortify your position and also your ability to project power.

    Autarky sacrifices some prosperity in times of peace in exchange for far more security in times of war.

    Whichever way you try and cut it - military, energy, trade - the events of the last two months have moved the equation on the continent heavily in favor of France.

    Which now brings us to the next part, the three biggest losers.


    L1. RUSSIA

    Russia is going to bleed economically in the years to come. And it is not merely due to economic retaliation by the West. No, it is going to be a double whammy.

    The first one is that the economic sanctions being put into place are going to freeze most Western investments in Russia in strategic domains by quite frankly, making them a criminal activity. The assets of Russian oligarchs abroad are toast now. Now it isn’t like the West does not have any assets in Russia which will be screwed, but the thing is that thanks to Russia’s corrupt structure, there are far more Russian assets parked in the West than Western assets locked in Russia. And the sanctions are not just in terms of dollars or euros, but put a ban on exports for such critical items like semiconductors. Let me put it this way - remember the sanctions imposed on Huawei? The ones that crippled it? Yeah, that has just gone into effect except now it’s for the entire nation of Russia. With agreement by TSMC, the largest global chip manufacturer located in Taiwan. I’ll let you cobble the pieces then.

    But the second one is unarguably even worse - the urgency with which the West are now going to run to make themselves as independent as possible of Russian fossil fuels. This is something which both the clean energy camp and the national security hawks can join hands on, though for very different reasons. Natural gas and oil exports are the bloodline of the Russian economy, they’re what power Putin’s war machine. And it means that even in some fantastic scenario where there were no sanctions at all, you simply still don’t want your biggest customer to start becoming less dependent on your product.

    As a drug dealer, if I were forced to choose between two bad options -

    1. Drugs being illegal and dangerous to sell, but my customers still desperately want to buy them.
    2. Drugs are completely legal to sell, but demand for them by my customers sharply falls.

    I know which one I’d take. Now Russia will get BOTH.

    To be clear, the purposes of sanctions now is not deterrence, that ship has sailed four days ago. Now sanctions have one purpose and one purpose alone - punishment. To starve Russia’s economy and especially her war machine.

    Good luck with that, Comrade Putin. He may be gone within a couple of decades, but the devastating effect on the Russian economy and her people by these sanctions which will extend for years if not decades, and asphyxiate Russia cruelly and systematically? That suffering will linger well beyond after Putin is put six feet under.

    Russia has now condemned her future economic survival, because quite frankly, she does not have much to offer the world in terms of goods except energy and weapons. Nobody buys a lot of Russian cars, computers, textiles or medicines. Most of Russian exports are stuff which you dig out of the ground, an extractive economy. And when that model changes, such an economy is simply not innovative enough to adapt.

    Russia is also now in the hock to a nation (China) which is as brutally realpolitik as they are. A nation which they have a border with in the East, except that the Chinese have 200 million on their side of the border while Russia has 4 million. And where the Russians have considerable fuel resources.

    Mark my words here - Mongolia may well prove to be for Russia, what Belarus has proven to be for Ukraine. A future Chinese puppet state which then acts as a staging ground for a gigantic invasion. And no, this isn’t the China of the 1950s which Moscow can just dismiss as “Their military is just a glorified horde of armed rice peasants!”

    Putin and Xi’s marriage may not be nearly as dystopian as that between Hitler and Stalin, yet. But it’s very much of an unstable marriage of convenience. It always is between any dictators for a simple reason - dictators are by nature extremely mistrustful and paranoid, since you don’t get to that position of brutal power without being that way. It’s a job where you won’t just walk out of the office like a democratic leader but will leave in a casket with a bullet hole in your head. And you didn’t have to be popular or affable to get elected to that office. It’s a reptilian psychopathic cocktail and that cold-blooded nature can’t just be turned on or off at will. It’s like the typical cartoon of two dictators shaking hands even as each one clenches a pistol behind his back with the other hand.

    Hitler and Stalin’s “partnership” above is the most well known, but the list is endless in just the last century.

    Pick whichever pair you please, dictators who shared the same neighborhood or a border - Hitler-Mussolini, Stalin-Mao, Saddam-Hafez, Hafez-Nasser, Saddam-Reza Pahlavi, Mubarak-Gaddafi - how many more do you want me to list, how much time do you have?

    It never changes, won’t change now.

    Putin’s proffered objective with the whole prelude and then act of invasion was the supposed threat from NATO? (which btw is a complete crock of shit, which I will address in another answer) - well congratulations Tsar! You’ve just managed to achieve the precise opposite. I honestly don’t think he was that dumb which is why I say the reason given was largely disingenuous.

    He made a calculated gamble that this crisis would fracture NATO and that he would be able to peel off the EU and especially Germany away from America and evict the latter from the continent. Notwithstanding the fact that Germany has embarrassingly had to be dragged kicking and screaming into supporting the others, the fact is that the Eastern Flank of NATO, now will be armed right to the teeth.

    Even as I write these words, five thousand more US troops are deploying rapidly into southeastern Poland where she borders Ukraine, and the Poles are as relieved as they are delighted to have them on their soil. The American military establishment with bases all over the planet, is usually trigger ready to go at a moments notice. I’ve often said that for better or worse in terms of the stereotype, while the American people are Athenian, the American war machine is decisively Spartan with a ruthless ability and appetite for destruction of the enemy.

    So Russia has alarmed her enemies, made them beef up their defenses, made them move as fast as they can away from the one product she must sell, and simultaneously delivered her fate into the hands of a ruthless regime with whom a reckoning in the East will come. And when (not if) that reckoning arrives at the east end of Siberia, Russia will be in a level of trouble which is hard to now comprehend.

    Anyway you try and square it, this was NOT about Russian security or interests at all. No, it was about Putin maintaining power in the Kremlin.

    Russians will come to see it in the decades ahead (I suspect that many already do), but for a nation whose men are quite literally drinking themselves to death, the hour will be too late by then.


    L2. GERMANY

    Where to start?

    Everything I said about France above? Yeah okay now, just flip it over and you have Germany. Germany’s credibility as a geopolitical partner and her potency at doing anything but pleading, is in tatters. Forget the credibility of her power, her partners especially in Eastern Europe now doubt even her motivations now.

    Look, it is easy to mock the Germans for their contribution of .. helmets…. to Ukraine. I sarcastically said that they’d next contribute trucks of condoms to Kiev so Ukrainian women can avoid pregnancy and STDs after mass rapes by Russian soldiers. But seriously, you have to understand that the position which Germany finds herself today in, is a culmination of systematic miscalculation, mercantilism and short-sightedness over at least two decades. In that sense, I feel genuine empathy for the current German government because they’ve been dealt a very bad legacy by previous German leaders, especially Gerhard Schroeder who as best friends with Putin was termed as a “political prostitute”. Mocking Olaf Scholz (as I’ve been guilty of doing myself) is not fair or reasonable because it is like yelling at the customer service representative for a bad product which they had little part in putting together.

    Ever since her unification, Germany all but jettisoned any security considerations. In the decision halls of Berlin when it came to foreign policy, EVERYTHING was subject to Germany’s mercantile interests. Everything was through the lens of “Will this help or hinder German exports and economic growth?” Germany in terms of her geopolitical strategy was like an anti-Russia. And that’s not a good thing because you should not veer to either extreme, focusing entirely on the military or completely ignoring the military.

    Today Germany finds herself with no military credibility at all.

    Her army, the Bundeswehr, is acknowledged by German insiders to be a shell of a force with a pitifully low proportion of actually operational equipment. I recently read an answer by Roland Bartetzko about how the quality of soldiers in the Austrian Army (I’d never heard of it ever since WW1) was one of the best in the world and almost as good as Germany’s! Very persuasive, I was impressed and wrote a comment on his answer saying that it’s like boasting

    My mother’s cooking is so good, it’s almost as good as Taco Bell!”

    It’s of little relevance what a nation’s training program for officers and enlisted men is when you don’t have enough heavy equipment! Soldiers and officers can’t just “theoretically” gain experience in using complex machinery. What are they expert at? Hand-to-hand combat?

    Are your naval officers honing their skills in fishing boats? Are your artillery officers practicing with water cannons? Are your future fighter aces training with Lufthansa’s commercial fleet?

    How good can your warriors be when you don’t provide adequate machinery in peace time for them to sharpen the skills they will need in war time?

    Even Germany’s vaunted economic size proved at best to be hollow, and at worst to be a hindrance. She had to be dragged kicking and screaming because Russia could just cut off her energy. I had warned repeatedly in the last few months in my writings here, again and again, how this talk of German GDP was in reality a white elephant in geopolitical terms. How her economy was in fact hostage to Russia (and will increasingly be to China), but many thought I was just being rabidly “anti-German” and even Europhobic. Every prediction I made, every assessment, has proven been on point in the last few weeks, but believe me when I say that it is not pleasurable at all when your foretelling of unpleasant events eventually comes to pass.

    Germany will suffer the hardest economic pain now because this weaning off Russian oil and gas will be the sharpest for her since she is the one most dependent on it. And to be fair, it is ridiculous and unrealistic to ask her to just cut it off overnight. She’s already cancelled Nord Stream II which is significant. Even with a chronic drug addict or alcoholic, if you just cut the drug off overnight you seriously risk killing the patient themselves. No, they need to be weaned off as quickly as possible but also as sensibly as warranted. You want to destroy the disease, not the patient. Even with German (and Italian) opposition to cutting off Russia from the SWIFT financial communications system, it isn’t as stupid as some seem to think - because doing that would make it extremely difficult for Germany to pay for Russian gas supplies and literally condemn millions of people in these aging nations to the cold and dark. German sins of the last two decades are bad but not so terrible that her people be punished in such brutal fashion!

    That said, Germany needs to be acutely conscious that for so long as she understandably needs and pays for Russian gas and oil, she unfortunately will be funding the Russian military machine. Likewise with trade with China. And hopefully that consciousness lights a fire under her to urgently do everything within her power to pivot away from those dependencies.

    To please try and get yourself away from men who you know…. wantonly invade their neighbors and also throw hundreds of thousands of their innocent citizens into concentration camps for no reason but their ethnicity. After all, your nation did have a guy once who did precisely both of those things in spades. Then be conscious of it and don’t be complicit in such evils any more than you absolutely have to be only for the time being understandably for your survival. Because believe me Germany, in the long-term you really don’t want to have the blood of thousands, if not millions of innocent people on your soul once again, even if that be through just unwittingly funding these crimes against humanity rather than committing them yourself.

    Germany is also likely to see another serious influx of refugees only second to Poland - but this time around at least the migrants won’t go around sexually assaulting German women en masse.

    There is no upside to this for Germany. None.

    Her military impotence has been exposed. Her energy dependence on Russia making her vulnerable to economic blackmail, has been the chief hindrance to Western sanctions. And finally her refusal to let even allies send arms to Ukraine prior to the conflict has plummeted her reputation among her partners to new depths.

    I don’t want to rub it in any further but I hope that she seriously takes stock of the long path in how she came to be in the terrible position where she finds herself right now, then weans herself off Russian energy and finds new suppliers, re-opens her nuclear plants, starts spending more money on her defense.

    Oh, and all of this talk of a “United States of Europe” which was the policy declared by the the current German coalition government as soon as they came to power late last year? Yeah, forget about it.


    L3. INDIA

    This one’s personal for me since it’s my motherland I’m speaking about here, I love her as passionately as I fear for her safety.

    But most Indians don’t even seem to realize how bad this is for them, given that the theater of conflict in Ukraine is seemingly so far away. Let me piece it together this way -

    • Russia has traditionally been India’s most powerful patron.
    • Russia’s most powerful patron right now and for the foreseeable future is China.
    • China is India’s most dangerous and mortal enemy.

    You do the math.

    When it comes to prioritizing Indian or Chinese interests, the choice will not even be a close one for Russia.

    Because though Russia traditionally likes India more than she does China, she now is inextricably dependent on China for her survival. India to put it quite bluntly, does not have the money to match Chinese patronage. It’s as simple as that, Putin has ensured that his nation has no other choice in the future for at least a decade, and probably way beyond that.

    To make matters worse, Russia seems to be warming up to that other old enemy of India, Pakistan. Pakistan as China’s client state in South Asia, comes as a ‘package deal’ with China. Or as one of my favorite Indian analysts, Shekhar Gupta put it quite comically, it’s like how in the 80s if you bought a large box of washing detergent powder (China), you also got a tiny soap bar (Pakistan) for free.

    Indians who still continue to support Russia don’t realize what terrible risk they are running, as China continues to encircle their nation systematically with bases in Myanmar, Sri Lanka and now Pakistan.

    And this danger to India and geopolitical competition from China is not like that between America and Russia. Because China is big, she is going to be powerful and most importantly, she is going nowhere. India is stuck with her. These two nations are too big and too close to each other for there to be a lasting peace between them, the threat will never go away.

    To make matters worse, it is clear to me that with China’s population ageing rapidly, she will seek to make India a client puppet state as a dumping ground for her goods. To knee cap India, and then do to my nation, what the British East India Company once did for a century. Those national memories are too painful to countenance having to experience them again.

    Now it is understandable and prudent that the Indians have not come out condemning Russia. But the few morons among my countrymen whose hatred for America is so great that they are wishing for Russian and Chinese dominance? That old saying about “cutting your nose off to spite your face!” They have no idea what unimaginable fate awaits their people if they are dominated by a nation which is so powerful, so close, and so malevolent.

    Some of these clowns even talk about Russia mediating between India and China. These people don’t seem to grasp a simple principle of geopolitics - you do not have any leverage in a dispute between two enemies if even one of them is vastly more powerful than you are.

    It would be like a wolf (Russia) trying to negotiate between a tiger (China) and a boar (India). The tiger will quite simply tell the wolf “Who the hell are you anyway? Go get lost, I’ll kill and eat the boar when I please!”

    Russia’s ever closer movement into China’s patronage is HORRIBLE news for India.

    India needs to do three things in my estimate and do them on a war footing like her existence depended on them. Because it does.

    1. Drive her economy as hard as she can.
    2. Establish a domestic armament industry and construct new nuclear energy reactors as fast as she can.
    3. Build a network of alliances outside the Moscow-Beijing axis as quickly as possible. Mainly with Japan, and then with America.

    India is sorely lacking in self-sufficiency in two critical components - energy and armaments. So long as she is not secure with both of those, she will always risk being held hostage by her suppliers, no matter how rich she may grow.

    Nations have no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interests. And India needs to realize that this attitude of non-alignment was all good and fine during the First Cold War. It was prudent even but then she had the luxury of sitting it out since the sphere of potential conflict was far away in Europe.

    That is not the case now. The mortal danger is right next door, both on the east and west flanks in North India.

    You cannot be hanging off a cliff with waves violently crashing below you, and say that you are neutral in your opinion about drowning!

    But it is clear to me and to some Indian national security advisors at least, that this episode driving a traditional ally into the arms of the worst and most powerful enemy is an unmitigated catastrophe for India.


    In conclusion,

    • Russia’s loss is China’s gain.
    • Germany’s loss is France’s gain.
    • India’s loss is well, who knows? May end up being America’s gain in terms of an alliance in fear of a common enemy (China).

    One final thing as a side note - I think that the British seem to have lucked out by leaving the EU just in the nick of time. And I have to say that with them being one of America’s most loyal friends and as one of the only European nations that demonstrated both honor and nerve against Russian predation when the hour of test arrived, I could not be more glad for them. Add to that the fact that Britain very prudently (like France) does not depend heavily on Russian gas.

    It would be ridiculous for any Brexiteer to take credit for the UK’s good fortune now, because nobody could have seen this coming in 2016. But given the curb stomping that the EU economy is about to experience, I cannot imagine any Remainer in the UK still saying now or for a long time to come, without them getting smacked in the mouth 

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  • 2 comments:

    1. thanks for the good news about russian and Ukraine war.Keep the good job up

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    2. This was an excellent answer. Thank you.

      I was going to ask what you thought the impact of this would be on a few countries - the UK included.

      How do you think this will affect Canada and Australia?

      And, what would you think of increased cooperation between India and Australia or the UK? I know the history with the UK has been… uhhh… let’s say troubled, at times. However, AUKUS means that the UK would be basing forces in Australia and Australia would rearm. Do you think that both would be important allies for India, or more an afterthought compared to the US and Japan?

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